Published on Friday, 13 March 2009
[A] What is Shani Sadesati (Sade Sati, Sadesati)
It takes approximately 30 years for Saturn to orbit around the Sun. i.e. it travels 2.5 years in one sign. When Saturn enters one sign previous to your Moon sign, you enter the period of “Sade sati”. It literally means 7.5 (2.5 + 2.5 + 2.5 years of Saturn’s stay around your sign).
Saturn teaches “by-example” in this period, does a reality check about various things in your life that you find important. It makes you think neutral about the things you feel very strongly about. It prepares you for the next 22 years. After Sadesati is over, you are fresh out of Saturn’s college to take on the world. You just need to put a lot of effort in Sadesati.
Sadesati is seen as a problematic period with lots of troubles & hardships. Well, it’s half-truth. Sadesati is an “Atma-shudhdhi” period where a lot of “reality-check” is given to the person. Saturn doesn’t “give” anything; it just shows anomaly or problems that already exist in and around you.
[C] Effect of Current (Gochar) Saturn’s travel on Horoscope Planets:
It is Saturn’s KARAKtva to give peeda and try to drive you away from extraneous “Asakati” of any thing you may have. Basically, Saturn gives such “reality check” every time it goes over any planet in your horoscope (the planets as they are at the time of your birth).
When Saturn goes over your Sun/Ravi, it hurts your ego, it makes you deal with seniors better, it teaches you do deal with father better. Shows illness or health issues of your father. It shows your health w.r.t heart and spine (ruled by Ravi). Ravi is “karak” of Raj-satta / administrative power, Father, Soul, Ego, Heart & Spine, bone structure apart from several other things. Check examples of this at the end of the article.
When Saturn goes over your Patrika Mars, it gives reality check w.r.t siblings (especially younger). It shows issues w.r.t blood (health), diabetes. It also shows side effects of wars, sports activities, extra competitive spirit that you might have. It also shows side effects of hard work, aggression and also at times shows issues with the land that you might have purchased or own. Mars is Karak of Sports, Wars, siblings, blood, aggression, land, and copper apart from other things. Check examples of this at the end of the article.
These are just effects of Saturn’s travel over two planets that are in nature TOTALLY different than Saturn. Saturn doesn’t have or like ego, it doesn’t have a asakti of anything. It is a nishkam karmayogi! So it takes you away from the things that you love the most by some peeda / haani just to make you aware that there is life beyond these things.
7.5 years before Sadesati: A Great Success: Support from Saturn
This is explained in great detail with examples in my article: http://www.astromnc.com/component/content/article/17-basics/astrologybasics/108-shani-9-10-11-to-moon-sign-right-time-right-place
To understand practical aspects of Sadesati, it is very much necessary to understand the previous few years before the Sadesati starts. These are the years when the person is in the “sweet-spot” of his abilities. He is perfectly ‘right there’. Unlimited support from masses is in these years of 9th, 10th and 11th Saturn. (12th, 1st and 2nd Saturn are of Sadesati). The person appears to have halo behind him and many think of him as a role model or a hero.
The person seems to have a lot of things that can be leveraged during this time period. There is no need to do any retrospect or think twice before delving into something as natural support is assumed due to your abilities being better than other’s at that point in time. Everywhere you go, people seem to take notice and treat you in a special way. You develop a habit of being always heard and being important at almost all the meetings. You get quite a bit of power (empowerment) that you can use the way you want to use it.
Basically, the support from 9th and especially 10th & 11th Saturn is the culmination of last 17/18 years of karma: acquiring knowledge, overall struggle, efforts and hard work. What ever you have learnt on what Saturn represents (masses, law, discipline, and economics apart from other things) in 18 years is given to you in 10th and 11th Saturn. (10th Saturn gives power from masses and 11th gives money.)
Now you can understand, what would person think when the support from 10/11 Saturn is no more with them! Even not doing great would be considered as bad! Doing above average would be considered as a failure! à it is all about expectation management. In Sadesati you don’t do worse than you were doing in say 7th/8th Shani! But the sorrow after lots of joy is always more troublesome! J
[D] SADESATI: Effects of current (Gochar) Saturn on Moon
Of all the planets, the Moon (karak of mind, mother, water, and silver) shows the MOST of the asakti, love, affection of various things in your life. Rather, all other planets are also studied in the horoscope w.r.t Moon-sign too to understand what ‘you’ think about your own horoscope consciously—subconsciously.
So it is natural that when Saturn comes closer to the Moon in horoscope, it gives THE toughest reality check in your life. Many of your misbelieves will be shattered in this period. Is it good or bad? Saturn doesn’t want you to live in fool’s paradise. It wants to make you wiser!
IMP: Saturn doesn’t seem to affect other planets apart from Moon when Saturn is in the previous sign of say, Sun or Mars or other planets BUT for the moon the “fun” starts when Saturn enters the previous sign itself and continues until Saturn is in next to next sign. i.e. for other planets reality check lasts for 2.5 years but for Moon it lasts for 7.5 years.
SADESATI EFFECTS OF EACH 2.5 YEARS
The natural support of 10th and 11th Saturn is no more there! The 12th Saturn shows that your risk profile should not be extravagant now. You need to invest for future and not expect the “Alice in Wonderland” effect of 10th/11th Saturn.
First 2.5 Years: Bad-mouth, oppose from masses, Sudden unwanted expenditure/low liquidity
The biggest effect of 12th Saturn is bad word of mouth/rumors that hurt you. The folks that got sidelined due to your might in last 5 years, regroup and their collective efforts are out of synch with you. You are suddenly “wrong time wrong place”, where you are seating on big gains but going nowhere! The factors that you HAD to neglect/overlook in the last 5 years due to various correct reasons come to haunt you! Depending on your harshness or any deeds that are against the law and you can find yourself behind the bars or in deep litigations.
So the 12th Saturn is about bad publicity (Masses thinking badly about you), loss of money/liquidity, litigations 7 public/masses thinking of you as enemy. It can make you cry many times. Health-wise: eyes (especially the left eye), ankles, stomach at times.
In your horoscope planets behind moon or 6th house from moon make matters worse in this period of Sadesati as they have affected factors mentioned above right from the start!!! (Good/bad Karma)
Middle 2.5 years: Mental, Viral/Water, Personal Issues
The bad mouthing, economic losses of 12th Saturn now start recovering. The focus is now on your personal life, parents’ health, mental peace, health/viral fevers. It also tests your temperament by difficult situations with close relatives, siblings & friends. Saturn represents masses/workers/voters and Moon represents social contacts with similar level folks (both economically, culturally). Saturn takes you away from near and dear ones, either mentally or physically. You have tons of reality check with the people you thought were close to you. The folks that stay close to you in this period are self less and not expecting any material gains form you. They are the “real” friends. Nastha-paani friends don’t even come to say hi in this period! J
So the 1st Saturn is about Disturbed Mental peace, temperament, loss of social status/time to socialize, parent’s health, issues with relatives, siblings & close friends. Viral (or thru water) diseases is a possibility.
In your horoscope planets with or opposite to Moon make matters worse in Sadesati as they have affected factors mentioned above right from the start! (Good/bad Karma) That’s why people born on Poornima (full moon Moon 180degrees opposite to Sun) and Amawasya (Sun Moon in the same sign) have more troubles in middle 2.5 years of Sadesati.
Last 2.5 years: Family / Hereditary Issues, Investments (Share Market, land, bonds etc)
The focus is now your (overall) family: common issues with the family. The investments that you have made or you might need to make. Health wise, it’s about eyes, eating habits, tongue, nose/breathing & some minor indications of future issues with lungs. You may even need to spend/lend money in situations not under your control (duty) and many times the money won’t come to you for a long time (say at least 3 years or more).
In your horoscope planets in house next to moon or 8th house from moon make matters much worse as they have affected factors mentioned above right from the start! (Good/bad Karma) 8th house is peeda-sthan & shows how/how much/what peeda you get in life. It also shows hereditary estate etc.
A person (apart from health), doesn’t suffer much in Sadesati expect for his own deeds. It is your misuse of power and irregularity of temperament, mishandling of relatives, friends that comes to bite you in the axx once the mighty support of 10th and 11th Saturn is over!! Negligence of several aspects of life due to increased importance of some aspects is also brought to notice in Sadesati. You need to deal with your own issues and nothing else. They could be of money, masses, politics, relatives, studies, career and what not.
It is the natural life cycle which is mirrored into stars most of the times & not the other way round. We should rather thank Saturn for Sadesati as it gives us the reality check of our life. The lessons are Sadesati are good enough to shine and enjoy life in real-sense with a newfound wisdom for next 22 years after Sadesati.
That’s why Saturn is referred in Hindu Mythology as “Shani-Maawuli”.
[E] Examples of Shani’s Bhraman from Sports, Politics and Movies:
Amitabh Bachchan (Tula rashi) was #1 to #10 when Saturn last time was in Cancer and Leo sign (9th, 10th and 11th to his Moon sign:: from June 1973 to 1980 end. He is having similar period from May 2005 to Sept 2009. Especially, from July 2007 to Sept 2009, there could be mass-hysteria, making contemporaries look like chicken.
From 1981, his Sadesati started and initial 2.5 years were very bad for him as he has 5 planets in Kanya rashi. i.e for him Sadesati was much more troublesome as multiple planets were before the moon & that too in 8th house of horoscope (peeda-sthan, mrutyu-sthan). i.e. 12th from Moon and 8th from 1st house of horoscope (ascendant--lagnarashi)
What happened in 1981 is VERY well known. When Saturn was close to Mars and Sun, he suffered a great accident. (Kanya raashi shows stomach.)
His Sadesati continued until end of 1987. His politics tenure happened completely in Sadesati and you are well aware of the problems he faced in Sadesati.
Dhirubhai Ambani was moon-sun and ascendant Dhanu raashi. When Shani was 10th and 11th from 1981 to Middle 1985, he used his money and political power a lot and was able to get almost anything done! He entered Sadesati from 1985 to 1992! J
First 2.5: From Oct 1985 entered Sadesati. First 2.5 years must have been all badanami, court-baaji, police inquiries due to 12th Shani. V.P. Singh was troubling him a lot.
Middle 2.5: Health-wise almost a hell as Shani going over Moon, Sun and lagnarashi. Also a lot of issues from Govt (V.P Singh had become the PM, whom Dhirubhai had allegedly removed from finance ministry using Amitabh’s contact??)
Rest 2.5: A bit better and regrouping of business and also recuperation on health front.
Sachin Tendulkar: From May 2005, Saturn is exactly opposite to Sachin Tendulkar’s Mars. Mars shows sports, running apart from other things. Especially, from last Oct 2006 until end of July 2007, Sachin was going thru a very rough patch of Saturn, as it was aspecting his Mars in close degrees (Pratiyog). (With this logic he would have the best year in 2009 as Guru would be traveling over Mars at that time)
The famous “Prince” episode in 2006: Saturn was in cancer sign and opposite to prince’s Sun (14th Aug b-date?). Cancer sign shows gatare, bhuyare. Small rivers etc. Similarly even from last week Saturn is again in last charan (Ashlesha) of cancer, yesterday Jun 17th (Saturn’s date: 8), one 5 year old kid went in a boar-well. (read eSakal), Even Sachin got a flue two days back.
From Midyear 1990 to Jan 1993, Saturn was in Makar rashi. Sena Supremo Balasaheb Thackeray’s sun sign (23rd Jan) is Makar. During this time his ego was hurt when Chhagan Bhujbal parted ways along with some 16/17 MLAs. (Actually, it was a very good thing to happen in long term as except for Bhujbal saheb, everybody else was former Congress/Congress-S person, so not Sena-man anyways).
Similarly, from May 2005 to July 2007m Saturn is in Cancer and going over Uddhav Thackeray’s Sun Sign Cancer: B-date 27th July). During this time his ego was also hurt and Narayan Rane parted ways from Sena. I am 100% sure that is a very good thing in the long run. As Uddhav’s moon sign is also Leo (Sadesati), the impact is doubled for him. (Also, this Saturn is in direct pratiyog with Balasaheb’s Sun Sign too.)
Vilasrao Deshmukh (born from May 14th to June 14h: May 26th), lost his CM position the 1st time when Saturn was in Vrushabh sign. Saturn was going over his Sun Sign. (From 2000 end to Jan 2003).
Most of the calamities (Tsunami, Stock Market crash, Mumbai Flood) usually happen on saturn’s date i.e. 8, 17 or 26.
Dilip Kumar goes into oblivion every time Sinvha rashi is under Sadesati.
Sanjay Dutt is moon sign Vrushabh had was under Sadesati from Apr 1998 to May 2005. From May 2005 to July 2007, Saturn is going over his Sun Sign. (Born on July 29th) (He paid or is paying for the mistakes(?) he did when Shani was supporting him from early 91 to April 98.)
Bill Clinton, Sharad Pawar all are Aries Moon sign (Mesh). Saturn was 10th and 11th to Mesh rashi from 1991 start to Feb 1996. From March 1996, Saturn went 12th and these all were seen on the wane. They all were under microscope and suffered several losses until 2002 end.
Bill Clinton: who allegedly misused power, was impeached in this period. Saw several law-suits, inquiries.
Sharad Pawar: Lost election etc and had hard time in sade sati, had to defect from Congress in middle 2.5 and form a new party etc. Had to again adjust with congress and support an opponent like Vilasrao in CM post. Sharad Pawar started doing well personally from Jan 2003 when Shani entered in Mithun and sade sati for Mesh rashi was over.
Bill Gates Moon sign Meen: That would make period of April 1993 to 2000 end troublesome but observations below would be quite valid)
Microsoft allegedly misused money power, OS dominance & irritant pop-ups while installing Java s/w (monopoly) had to undergo anti-trust lawsuit. As his Sun sign is Libra (born on Oct 28th from Oct 16th to Nov 16th), Saturn in Aries from, April 1998 to 2000 end was highly problematic to him. He was at odds with Govt during that time. 1996 to 1998, 12th / 1st Saturn showed him what he did wrong my not giving internet enough importance. After end of 2000 he came out of Sadesati.